Who else is on the carnivore diet?

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foldinthecheese Posts: 15 Member
February 10

Good point on the last stop. In this case I was more alluding to the last stop on a train line for instance, since the previous poster said most people on the carnivore diet will have exhausted all other diets.
kshama2001 Posts: 27,716 Member
February 10

rileysowner wrote: »
LeslieRussell7103 wrote: »
lytleart2016 wrote: »
neanderthin wrote: »
Why did you decide to go carnivore?
I did a lot of research on it. First of all I have arthritis in my hands pretty bad and acid reflux. All the YouTube videos of people that have done this diet pretty much lose arthritis pain and acid reflux. I’m overweight as well and it’s been harder to lose weight and stay on a diet. Seen a 60yr old YouTuber that is on this diet and he lost 40 pounds in two months. Soo many people are going to comment on this saying carnivore diet is bad and you need vegetables. But not everyone is the same. Whenever I eat vegetables, I bloat bad and have gas. Love broccoli and green beans but after I eat them it’s rough. I honestly feel great right now. It works for me. After I hit my goal weight, I will probably slowly and with moderation bring back some carbs and vegetables. But at this rate I should hit my goal weight in a few months or sooner. I think part of why I feel soo good is because I’ve completely took out sugar. Everything nowadays has sugar.
Keep an eye on your total cholesterol and ratios, this could put a strain on your heart and vascular system, even with the weightloss.
I hope you are warning all the Vegans that they need to keep an eye on B-12 and protein.
I'm not the poster you responded to, but I will always mention B-12 and protein on a thread by a new vegan, if someone else doesn't beat me to it, which they often do.
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kshama2001 Posts: 27,716 Member
February 10

lytleart2016 wrote: »
neanderthin wrote: »
Why did you decide to go carnivore?
I did a lot of research on it. First of all I have arthritis in my hands pretty bad and acid reflux. All the YouTube videos of people that have done this diet pretty much lose arthritis pain and acid reflux. I’m overweight as well and it’s been harder to lose weight and stay on a diet. Seen a 60yr old YouTuber that is on this diet and he lost 40 pounds in two months. Soo many people are going to comment on this saying carnivore diet is bad and you need vegetables. But not everyone is the same. Whenever I eat vegetables, I bloat bad and have gas. Love broccoli and green beans but after I eat them it’s rough. I honestly feel great right now. It works for me. After I hit my goal weight, I will probably slowly and with moderation bring back some carbs and vegetables. But at this rate I should hit my goal weight in a few months or sooner. I think part of why I feel soo good is because I’ve completely took out sugar. Everything nowadays has sugar.
I'm glad this is working for you.
I've heard the same health claims about eating vegan or vegetarian, and WFPB, and possibly more. (I'm not recommending this for YOU, just saying.) I wonder if it's more what the people who receive health benefits are NOT eating, rather than what they are eating.
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neanderthin Posts: 9,668 Member
February 12 edited February 12

kshama2001 wrote: »
lytleart2016 wrote: »
neanderthin wrote: »
Why did you decide to go carnivore?
I did a lot of research on it. First of all I have arthritis in my hands pretty bad and acid reflux. All the YouTube videos of people that have done this diet pretty much lose arthritis pain and acid reflux. I’m overweight as well and it’s been harder to lose weight and stay on a diet. Seen a 60yr old YouTuber that is on this diet and he lost 40 pounds in two months. Soo many people are going to comment on this saying carnivore diet is bad and you need vegetables. But not everyone is the same. Whenever I eat vegetables, I bloat bad and have gas. Love broccoli and green beans but after I eat them it’s rough. I honestly feel great right now. It works for me. After I hit my goal weight, I will probably slowly and with moderation bring back some carbs and vegetables. But at this rate I should hit my goal weight in a few months or sooner. I think part of why I feel soo good is because I’ve completely took out sugar. Everything nowadays has sugar.
I'm glad this is working for you.
I've heard the same health claims about eating vegan or vegetarian, and WFPB, and possibly more. (I'm not recommending this for YOU, just saying.) I wonder if it's more what the people who receive health benefits are NOT eating, rather than what they are eating.
That's exactly what a carnivore diet is, an elimination diet. The healthier outcomes are from what they're not eating.
Also any diet when compared to the SAD diet, like a vegan or MED for example, those studies will show improvement in most health markers and it's basically just the simple fact that replacing highly processed foods with more whole foods delivers some health benefit, not to mention the healthy user bias. Peoples susceptibility and tolerances to different food sensitivities lives here and an individual journey of discovery is the only way to find out and until they do it themselves, otherwise it can be all noise, distraction and confusion.
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elfin168 Posts: 202 Member
February 12

sounds like a recipe for kidney stones

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rileysowner Posts: 7,997 Member
February 12

elfin168 wrote: »
sounds like a recipe for kidney stones
Most kidney stone, albeit not all, are calcium oxalate stones. There is no oxalates in meat, so the most common kidney stones can't form. Nice try though.
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neanderthin Posts: 9,668 Member
February 12

rileysowner wrote: »
elfin168 wrote: »
sounds like a recipe for kidney stones
Most kidney stone, albeit not all, are calcium oxalate stones. There is no oxalates in meat, so the most common kidney stones can't form. Nice try though.
Yeah, it's a popular misconception that meat is the cause of kidney stones through the increase in uric acid, which happens but it represents about 10% of stones. Too much calcium accounts for about another 10% which leaves oxalates for the 80% left which are found in plants.
Can't really blame people for not knowing when they've only been fed information that is intended to form opinions to influence future behaviors, which is to put meat in a bad light, more specifically red meat.
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sollyn23l2 Posts: 1,416 Member
February 12

neanderthin wrote: »
rileysowner wrote: »
elfin168 wrote: »
sounds like a recipe for kidney stones
Most kidney stone, albeit not all, are calcium oxalate stones. There is no oxalates in meat, so the most common kidney stones can't form. Nice try though.
Yeah, it's a popular misconception that meat is the cause of kidney stones through the increase in uric acid, which happens but it represents about 10% of stones. Too much calcium accounts for about another 10% which leaves oxalates for the 80% left which are found in plants.
Can't really blame people for not knowing when they've only been fed information that is intended to form opinions to influence future behaviors, which is to put meat in a bad light, more specifically red meat.
For sure. Big bad brocolli, out to destroy the futures of American children everywhere. But yes, you're right in that oxalates do form a decent percentage of kidney stones. But they are caused usually by multiple problems coming together. You're unlikely to get kidney stones from eating the recommended amount of vegetables unless other causes also come into play (severe chronic dehydration being the biggest one).
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neanderthin Posts: 9,668 Member
February 13

sollyn23l2 wrote: »
neanderthin wrote: »
rileysowner wrote: »
elfin168 wrote: »
sounds like a recipe for kidney stones
Most kidney stone, albeit not all, are calcium oxalate stones. There is no oxalates in meat, so the most common kidney stones can't form. Nice try though.
Yeah, it's a popular misconception that meat is the cause of kidney stones through the increase in uric acid, which happens but it represents about 10% of stones. Too much calcium accounts for about another 10% which leaves oxalates for the 80% left which are found in plants.
Can't really blame people for not knowing when they've only been fed information that is intended to form opinions to influence future behaviors, which is to put meat in a bad light, more specifically red meat.
For sure. Big bad brocolli, out to destroy the futures of American children everywhere. But yes, you're right in that oxalates do form a decent percentage of kidney stones. But they are caused usually by multiple problems coming together. You're unlikely to get kidney stones from eating the recommended amount of vegetables unless other causes also come into play (severe chronic dehydration being the biggest one).
Kidney stones are probably the least of a persons worries when it comes to oxalates. They're mainly known to interfere with the absorption of minerals such as calcium, magnesium, iron, and zinc. They can muck with thyroid hormones, which helps regulate metabolic rate and energy production. Oxalates can effect neurotransmitters such as serotonin, dopamine which can and do effect our mood and cognition and they also can damage nerve endings and brain cells which can effect our memory, and simple things like coordination, especially as we age. Oxalates can also accumulate in our joints and result in symptoms like arthritic stiffness and swelling, so yeah other things come into play with oxalates.
Corina1143 Posts: 2,501 Member
February 13

Oh no! First they tell me my celery juice doesn't cure anything and now you tell me my broccoli 's making me sick!
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neanderthin Posts: 9,668 Member
February 13

Haha, yeah, no broccoli doesn't have much in the way of oxalates, and celery is only good with cheese wiz lol.
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ccrdragon Posts: 3,364 Member
February 13

The oxalates come mostly from spinach, berries and milk chocolate (at least in the American diet)
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PAV8888 Posts: 13,100 Member
February 13

Uh oh. What you talking about Bob? 🤯 I may have to reconsider my life choices and the percentage of my daily vegetables consisting of cocoa!!!
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sollyn23l2 Posts: 1,416 Member
February 13

PAV8888 wrote: »
Uh oh. What you talking about Bob? 🤯 I may have to reconsider my life choices and the percentage of my daily vegetables consisting of cocoa!!!
Guess that means my chocolate spinach smoothie is out of the question then.
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